MAME emulation is shitty!, btw, that trick was tested on the actual HW?.
You don't put two punctuation marks together.
Why did you think this was even worth pointing out?! Does it bother you so much that you had to point out this tiny flaw in Delek's otherwise absolutely intelligible English??
How rude!! I never thought I'd see this kind of attitude here..!
I'm sorry for helping people on the internet. Christ, you shouldn't be rude like that. You almost made me feel bad. And again, I'm sorry for pointing out a "minor" flaw in his English; but what you did was no better.
I was being ironic. It's not helping if you're being a cunt while doing it either. I'm glad you feel bad because your comment came out as condescending and patronising. Can you imagine random strangers interrupting your mundane day-to-day conversation with friends to correct your slightest, most inane language mistakes? Have some consideration.
Here!
It's got all the instruments that I'm gonna use, but whatever...
And where is the bug?, I can hear the same A-7 in the Noise channel without differences between the first and the last one. Your DefleMask version is "8 u9"?, if not, update it please.
Thom wrote:
I'm sorry for helping people on the internet.
You are not helping me, a help here could be a bug report for DefleMask or show a song that you done with it, this space is not for an English lesson.
Maybe a PM could have been the correct way of pointing out a flaw in this non-native language that I need to speak here.
This was originally brought up in the VGM MM thread, but since Deflemask can use .vgi instruments, I thought I might as well bring it up again here.
I've been into trying to simulate "8-bit" sound with the YM2612 and one of the difficult parts was trying to make a "triangle" wave. (And also different pulse widths other than 50% are probably impossible to make)
I don't think you can get much closer than this, but prove me wrong!
A triangle can be obtained using something like this. Here is a instrument that I done that resembles to a Triangle. However, a perfect triangle will be impossible with 4 operators, you need infinite harmonics to make it with FM Synthesis.
I was talking to ValleyBell a bit about PSG noise in VGMRips IRC. He mentioned the way VGM MM does the noise is correct. So, that means the noise alone has 4 possible frequencies, 3 of which not altered by square 3, and the fourth is highest possible frequency, which is higher than Deflemask can currently achieve. The way Deflemask has it now, by having the noise at one frequency and adjusting all notes played by the noise with square 3 is incorrect.
The way DefleMask has the Noise is using the 20xy effect:
DefleMask's Manual wrote:
SN76489 Effects:
20xy - Change Noise Mode:
This effect only works on SN76489 (PSG) channels.
This effect will change the way in which the SN76489 makes the noise.
Value x sets the special noise mode, if it is set to 0 only 3 frequencies can be done: C, C# and D.
If it is set to a non 0 value, the noise can reach any frequency but the third square of the SN76489 will be turned off. The Noise channel will use the frequency of the third Square.
Value y sets the type of noise, setting it to 0 will enable the periodic noise mode, if it is set to a non zero value, white noise generation will be enabled.
And DefleMask can reach A-7, and it is the highest frequency that the SN76489 can reach. I don't understand why are you saying that VGMMM can reach higher frequencies using the SN76489.
Please listen to THIS file, it plays the Noise in VGMMM and in DefleMask, comparing the limit of they SN76489 implementations. And it is the same.
It isn't just VGM MM. The real SN76489 can go higher than the normal highest frequency that is allowed just with a note. It is the truth, many games use this highest frequency for hi hats.
No, that is not what I am saying. This is not related to just VGM MM. It is not a hack at all. It is the real behavior of the SN76489. I am only using VGM MM as an example because it is a good example to use since it achieves this correct behavior.
This isn't related to the trick of using portamento up. Remember, VGM MM has a "CH3" note. That note by itself is the maximum frequency of the real SN76489. You can hear that is is higher than the highest frequency in Deflemask currently.
This isn't related to the trick of using portamento up. Remember, VGM MM has a "CH3" note. That note by itself is the maximum frequency of the real SN76489. You can hear that is is higher than the highest frequency in Deflemask currently.
DefleMask do not uses that strange stuff like Low, Mid, High or CH3 in the SN76489. I realized that you can reach that frequency, that is higher than A-8, in DefleMask, using C-8.
This is not highest frequency. Here is an attachement of the same exact thing played in VGM MM. The difference is, I made this one start from highest frequency.
Btw, that C-8 note in deflemask is the same thing as that portamento "trick" I talked about.
Yes, you are right. I updated DefleMask 8 to u10, I added fully support to that higher freq in the SN76489.
NEWS:
Now you can reach the highest frequency of the SN76489 (A-7#).
Fixed a bug in the Waveform Display (a random vertical bar moving across the waveform).
Manual Updated.
Raijin, please update it to u10 and tell me if it is now the highest frequency.
