Login:
Menu:
Post: Author:
FamiTracker > General > FamiTracker Talk > I'm new and What's going on in N106's sound? Owner: CaramelPuffpuff New post
Page 11 of 12 Sort: Goto Page: << Previous [1] [2] [3] ... [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] Next >>
Posted: 2013-08-30 18:14 Reply | Quote
jrlepage
Moderator

Avatar

Member for: 6391 days
Location: Canada
Status: Offline

#50931
Just use whatever methods suit you best.

_______________________
Follow me on Twitter.
I record (some) NSFs on hardware. Feel free to request a hardware render.
Posted: 2013-09-03 01:44 Reply | Quote
CaramelPuffpuff

Avatar

Member for: 4847 days
Status: Offline

#51016
Okay. So it's both;

Seperate for main instrument (along with Shattertooth and reserve.)

and combine for the official one.

Posted: 2013-09-03 02:02 Reply | Quote
jrlepage
Moderator

Avatar

Member for: 6391 days
Location: Canada
Status: Offline

#51017
Cool.

_______________________
Follow me on Twitter.
I record (some) NSFs on hardware. Feel free to request a hardware render.
Posted: 2013-09-03 20:09 Reply | Quote
B00daW

Avatar

Member for: 6395 days
Status: Offline

#51028
poodlecock wrote:
jsr wrote:
If you're not satisfied with what the hardware can do then perhaps you should try a sample based tracker or a modern DAW.

+1. I have no clue why people demand more features that are out of the Famicom's scope to be added to Famitracker. It's for the Famicom, people. Not for the blasted sample-based do-whatever-because-the-limit-is-the-sky world!


For one, it's fun to do and if it runs on hardware then it should be done.

Attached is an NSF example made in FamiTracker by Strobe of TiTAN. He created a program that makes a custom *.FTM file with N163 instruments based on a single 16kB 8-bit PCM sample reduced to an 8kB 4-bit PCM sample spanned across 32 different instruments. Each instrument is used as a psuedo-offset of the sample. Being that it's N163, each sample can be played at a different frequency; so effects and pitch bends can be achieved. It even has almost better quality that DPCM. For 8kB, the sample size is negligible and this can even be paired with DPCM for additional fun. When multiple channels are used to play 256B offsets of samples there is a huge lag produced so maybe only 2 channels at most in the N163 would be wise for all of the sample swapping.

The capability is already in the current FamiTracker. So I don't know why people would even gripe about the ethics of doing it.

Have fun abusing and pushing hardware to its limits.


Attachments:
pcmn163.nsf (16 Kb)
Posted: 2013-09-04 00:44 Reply | Quote
Xyz_39808

Avatar

Member for: 5589 days
Location: South Texas
Status: Offline

#51034
Oh my god. WHAT
WHAT
WHAT


Posted: 2013-09-04 01:37 Reply | Quote
jrlepage
Moderator

Avatar

Member for: 6391 days
Location: Canada
Status: Offline

#51036
The N163 is essentially a set of PCM channels. Just, really really low-quality 4-bit PCM.

By the way, this NSF is super overclocked; I haven't tried, but I strongly doubt any sort of hardware player could play it at this speed. Still, it's a pretty cool experiment.

_______________________
Follow me on Twitter.
I record (some) NSFs on hardware. Feel free to request a hardware render.
Posted: 2013-09-04 06:54  (Last Edited: 2013-09-04 06:55) Reply | Quote
B00daW

Avatar

Member for: 6395 days
Status: Offline

#51051
It's an NSF and the processor is ~1.74MHz. The NSF is clocked at 311Hz. I doubt how chubby the FamiTracker replayer is that it bloats the entire CPU for a single N163 channel.

You have an N163 cart and a TNS-HFC3 to dongle it into. I'd put money on this working on hardware.

How about a $1 USD wager? I'll supply my PayPal account once you wipe the egg off your face, Mr. JR.

Posted: 2013-09-04 08:49 Reply | Quote
Im_a_Track_Man

Avatar

Member for: 5546 days
Location: Plantation, Florida
Status: Offline

#51052
B00daW wrote:
Mr. JP.

there I fixed it.

_______________________
[BURNING LOVE]
YouTube
Twitter (Stay off my lawn, kids)
Posted: 2013-09-04 09:29  (Last Edited: 2013-09-04 09:30) Reply | Quote
jrlepage
Moderator

Avatar

Member for: 6391 days
Location: Canada
Status: Offline

#51054
B00daW wrote:
You have an N163 cart and a TNS-HFC3 to dongle it into. I'd put money on this working on hardware.

The HFC3 plays everything at 60.09 Hz.

And yeah I'm JP by the way.

_______________________
Follow me on Twitter.
I record (some) NSFs on hardware. Feel free to request a hardware render.
Posted: 2013-09-04 19:45 Reply | Quote
B00daW

Avatar

Member for: 6395 days
Status: Offline

#51069
Well, damnation. I wonder if he took that into consideration on the TNS-HFC4, but I doubt it.

Posted: 2013-09-19 03:09 Reply | Quote
CaramelPuffpuff

Avatar

Member for: 4847 days
Status: Offline

#51378
.______.;;

Anyway, what is your most favorite NAMCO instrument made by something you never maded?

Mine would be the Castlevania 3 with violin made by someone with really hard-core remix.

Posted: 2013-10-04 06:19 Reply | Quote
CaramelPuffpuff

Avatar

Member for: 4847 days
Status: Offline

#51707
Can someone ask me what is their most preferable instruments? I'm trying to collect the most-favorable instruments.

Posted: 2013-10-04 08:08 Reply | Quote
za909

Avatar

Member for: 5371 days
Location: Hungary
Status: Offline

#51710
Personally I don't think this bump was really worth it, but since I'm here...

I'm not that into N163 these days, and when I am I prefer using no wave macros, just like the actual games with the chip.
Only exception might be PWM instruments.

Posted: 2013-10-04 17:11  (Last Edited: 2013-10-04 17:13) Reply | Quote
Mr_Master



Member for: 4930 days
Status: Offline

#51714
If you are talking about Namco, same as za909. I don't usually use wave macros except when I want to make a plucky instrument. If other sound chips are involved, then I'd say that I prefer blank instruments over macros because they give me more freedom when using the effects column and stuff.

Also, yeah, this bump wasn't really worth it. Instead of asking such question here, it would have been better to study other people's FTMs and then get to your own conclusions about what you like and what you don't like about them, along with practicing in the tracker by making your own songs. Getting your own style is something you do alone, not depending on other people to tell you what's best and what not.

There are not "most-favorable instruments". That's something you decide yourself as you gain experience with the tracker. If you feel more comfortable using instruments with macros, then go ahead, do that, but if you don't, you should better use a blank instrument as your main one and do everything else in the pattern editor by manipulating volume and effects manually.

Posted: 2013-10-04 22:26 Reply | Quote
CaramelPuffpuff

Avatar

Member for: 4847 days
Status: Offline

#51718
I do like plucky instruments....

But this bump has cookiiieees.

Ooh. I agree. Which is why I love the settings, "Erase all unused instruments." ^^

I am sure it's a yes, but is the instruments other people made free to use by other people who did not made it?

Page 11 of 12 Sort: Goto Page: << Previous [1] [2] [3] ... [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] Next >>